[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 64
jomike at cot.net
jomike at cot.net
Sat Apr 12 10:34:40 CDT 2008
now I'm mulling getting a couple
more pairs at $60. Just to complement the SIX pairs I have in the
closet right now
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So that's too many or something?
are we there yet
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> 1. Re: SPOT Locator beacon (Halfmile)
> 2. Re: weight scales (montypct)
> 3. Re: weight scales (Steel-Eye)
> 4. you might be a PCT hiker if .... (David Plotnikoff)
> 5. Lovely Lagunas (Freiman, Paul)
> 6. Re: weight scales (Tortoise)
> 7. Re: P...on the Trail Pirate (Hiker97)
> 8. Re: altitude (Tom Aterno)
> 9. Re: Kickoff and Pirate Traps (Hiker97)
> 10. SOBO in July, snow levels in WA, the detour around Glacier
> Peak (Connie Davis)
> 11. Re: Cajon Pass to Aqua Dulce (RJ Lewis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:57:42 -0700
> From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] SPOT Locator beacon
> To: "Philippa Nye" <philippanye at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Phillippa,
>
> Just curious, what is the SPOT tracking function suppose to do?
>
> --Halfmile
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Philippa Nye <philippanye at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Someone asked about the SPOT locator beacon. I bought one a week ago and
>> have been testing the tracking function while hiking and driving, and I
>> have to say I'm not too happy with it. I spent about 3 hours out walking
>> today, alot of it on a beach that was WIDE open to the sky, and the thing
>> did not track me once. It is not very clear why it doesn't work in
>> certain really open areas (in this case it was hooked to my belt, so
>> maybe it doesn't work well in that position), but it definitely doesn't
>> seem to work when there are trees within a hundred feet or so. My
>> assessment so far is, better than nothing but I hope if I have an
>> emergency that I'm mobile enough to get out in a really open area,
>> otherwise I'm SOL.
>>
>> I'll report more as I test it more.
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:31:22 -0700
> From: "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] weight scales
> To: "sandy boyd" <sandylwes at yahoo.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Sounds like what I am using.
> Grams, ounces pounds up to 35
>
> Name on it is Ultra 35
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sandy boyd" <sandylwes at yahoo.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:57 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] weight scales
>
>
>> Thanks group for the help with the cascade locks to white pass question
>> yesterday-
>>
>> now I have another one, what do most of you use to weigh your items? I
>> see on ebay digital postal scales go pretty cheap ($17.00 including
>> shipping) is that the way to go??
>> Thanks- sandy
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:57:10 -0700
> From: "Steel-Eye" <chelin at teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] weight scales
> To: "sandy boyd" <sandylwes at yahoo.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Good evening, Sandy,
>
> I use a digital postal scale that was on a good sale. It was cheap
> because
> it has a printed chart showing shipping cost vs. weight --then the rates
> were increased making the device obsolete. That's fine for me, I just
> want
> accurate weight.
>
> Steel-eye
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sandy boyd" <sandylwes at yahoo.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:57 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] weight scales
>
>
>> Thanks group for the help with the cascade locks to white pass question
>> yesterday-
>>
>> now I have another one, what do most of you use to weigh your items? I
>> see on ebay digital postal scales go pretty cheap ($17.00 including
>> shipping) is that the way to go??
>> Thanks- sandy
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:07:43 -0700
> From: David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] you might be a PCT hiker if ....
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hello from a long-time list-lurker.
>
> I rarely troll REI-OUTLET.com unless I'm looking for some specific
> piece of gear. Tonight it was MicroPur water tablets (which are never
> on clearance, of course) ...
> and I serendipitously came across Montrail Hardrocks in last year's
> color scheme (the red) at $60. I flashed back to burning dividend
> last year on *two pair* of Hardrocks I didn't even need yet when they
> were $45 (REI will gather them from various far-flung stores and ship
> them to your home store....) ... now I'm mulling getting a couple
> more pairs at $60. Just to complement the SIX pairs I have in the
> closet right now (each with a trail mileage/wear log clipped to the
> shoelace)....
>
> SO, it dawns on me you MIGHT be a thru-hiker if you have six
> identical pairs of shoes in your closet, three of which never worn,
> and you're considering buying two more of the same.
>
> Good luck to the class of 2008. I'm sorry I'll miss the kickoff
> again, 10 years running.
>
> DP
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:13:07 -0700
> From: "Freiman, Paul" <pfreiman at ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [pct-l] Lovely Lagunas
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Just got back from the Lagunas. 70 degrees and glorious. Store owner
> says that about 50 thrus have been there. Reminded me to get the bounce
> boxes there, not PO.
>
>
> Bivy
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:15:02 -0700
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] weight scales
> To: sandy boyd <sandylwes at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I bought a cheap digital kitchen scale from Wal*Mart a few years back.
> seems quite accurate. probably doesn't go as high as some of the postal
> scales but it seems adequate for most any weighing I have.
>
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> He who finishes last, wins! <>
>
>
> sandy boyd wrote:
>> Thanks group for the help with the cascade locks to white pass question
>> yesterday-
>>
>> now I have another one, what do most of you use to weigh your items? I
>> see on ebay digital postal scales go pretty cheap ($17.00 including
>> shipping) is that the way to go??
>> Thanks- sandy
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:34:01 -0700
> From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] P...on the Trail Pirate
> To: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>, reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, lizmares at cox.net, carolwbruno at yahoo.com,
> zoomersdelivers at yahoo.com
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> Gunga Din AsABat writes: What, did you get a new moped, Switchback?
> ----------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: I do not have anything to ride on the PCT ....... yet.
> I am cleaning out my garage to make room for my future Harley. I put all
> my hiking gear up high out of the way. I am thinking of bringing a lot to
> the Kickoff to give away like I did last year with a lot my extra gear. I
> was looking at the HOG (Harley Owner Group) newsletter and am getting
> really excited about all the neat rides they do. Super fun. It is like
> the adventures on the PCT only on the road. Anytime my bike or I need a
> drink, we just pull into a truck stop. No problem.
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:55:06 -0700
> From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] altitude
> To: jomike at cot.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> My son and I drove from San Diego to Horseshoe Meadows last year.
> Spent a day and a half acclimating at 10,000' , then hiked up to
> Chicken Spring Lake, roughly 11, 000'. No ill effects. Spent a few
> days hiking around and came out over New Army Pass at 12,300'. No
> altitude sickness for me or my son.
>
> I have heard that if you are presupposed to altitude sickness, the
> problems begin to occur > 12,500'. We will test that this summer on
> Mt. Langley, and White Mountain.
>
>
> Tom KI6ASP
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, at 8:44 AM, <jomike at cot.net> wrote:
>
>> I was just reading an article in Backpacker as to what happens to your
>> body at "altitude". Isn't that defined as 10,000' and above? That
>> being the case, what effect do those who have hiked the pct through
>> the Sierra, Forester Pass, et.al experience? Poorly worded sentence,
>> sorry.
>>
>> are we there yet
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:39:10 -0700
> From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff and Pirate Traps
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: zoomersdelivers at yahoo.com, lizmares at cox.net, carolwbruno at yahoo.com
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> The WagonMaster writes: Oh, and we need Switchback, the Trail Pirate, to
> stop setting booby traps on the trail up from the border to snare
> unsuspecting trail damsels!
> --------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: This is an outrage! This is slander. Harley riding
> Trail Pirates do not need to set damsel traps. They come to him. They
> seek him out. They won't leave him alone. Even Female Leadership
> Terminator types are not immune to the mountainman aura and he-man mystic.
> The sound of the thundering, heart-stopping V-Twin coming down the trail
> cannot be resisted. All humble apologies accepted.
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:12:06 -0700
> From: Connie Davis <conniedavis at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] SOBO in July, snow levels in WA, the detour around
> Glacier Peak
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: palomino.pct at gmail.com
> Message-ID: <C81DA6E1-7F07-4C18-8385-541AC8E64D97 at earthlink.net>
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>
> It's way too early to tell what conditions will be like in July, so
> my advice is to keep all your options open.
>
> Mission Control and I had a chance to talk to the USFS ranger in
> charge of the PCT in the Mt Baker-Snoqualmie district on our way to
> the PCTA Trailsfest in Sacramento a couple of weeks ago. He says the
> snow pack in Washington is different this year than most years. Mt
> Baker itself didn't get that much more snow than usual. The snow
> pack accumulated at lower elevations, so it may melt sooner and not
> be much different than an average year. It really depends on what
> spring melt-off is like: how warm it gets and when. (IMPORTANT
> NOTE: He also announced that there will be BLASTING to rebuild the
> PCT this year near Glacier Peak during the prime hiking window and
> that it will be UNSAFE to take the real PCT around Glacier Peak.
> The detour is the most beautiful place on the trail to me--see
> journal entry June 23, 2005).
>
> We live about 1 1/2 hours from Manning Park in the Fraser Valley,
> which drains most of the snow melt from mountains on 3 sides. Last
> year we were under flood threat for quite a while because it seemed
> like it was going to warm up fast. It didn't. The snow melted
> slowly, saving us from flooding. Who knows what this year will
> bring? I can still see snow at about 2000 ft from my living room
> window, but we're supposed to have a nice sunny weekend with
> temperatures in the 60's.
>
> Mongous and I did the flip-flop in 2005. We decided about a week
> before we flipped that we wanted to avoid the high snows in the
> Sierras. We were able to make travel arrangements for the train and
> we were off the trail for about a week traveling and resupplying (and
> visiting family.) You'll be able to monitor conditions from home and
> make your decision much closer to when you want to hike.
>
> Lookout
> Yarrow BC
> http://trailjournals.com/lookoutandmongous/
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:23:30 -0500
> From: RJ Lewis <karmagurl at bektel.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cajon Pass to Aqua Dulce
> To: Trekker4 at aol.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Interesting....I'm a highway road construction worker.....we've *never*
> chased a backpacker or hiker...that just seems outrageous. Our only
> interest is in everyone's safety as we work on down the highway. In fact
> we would most likely tell a hiker or backpacker the safest route through
> our section, or even give them a lift, if it wasn't safe to traverse the
> section we were working in. Sheesh! That kind of behavior belongs in
> grade school, not amongst adults.
>
> Peace!
> RJ AKA DJ KarmaGurl
>
> Trekker4 at aol.com wrote:
>> I read or heard, sometime in the past 10 months or so, that Caltrans had
>> finally started repairing CA-2 (Angeles Crest Hwy), so hikers that decide
>> to
>> walk part of it may run into the same highway worker opposition that
>> happened a
>> couple of times in 05, according to pct-l postings. I doubt they'll chase
>> ya
>> though, so make sure your training includes running with your pack on!
>>
>> Bob "Trekker"
>> Big Bend Desert Denizen
>> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>>
>> Government cripples you, then hands you a crutch and says, 'See, if it
>> wasn't for us, you couldn't walk.'
>> -- Harry Browne
>>
>> "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it
>> costs
>> when its free."
>> -- P. J. ORourke
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/10/2008 4:18:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net writes:
>>
>> Until today, I had nothing on Section D, and still have nothing except
>> what Donna just sent me today (North Fork, Mill creek Summit, and Mattox
>> Canyon had water). I'm just guessing that the snow is starting to melt
>> in
>> earnest, and, from what I've seen on Mt. Baldy, that the north side of
>> Baden Powell probably has quite a bit of snow. Again, JUST GUESSING. If
>> the snow is too difficult up there, Highway 2 has been closed for years
>> and doesn't make a bad road walk around the worst of the snow. I suspect
>> as the snow goes away hikers like Big Daddy D will be sending in water
>> reports. Thanks!
>>
>> AsABat
>>
>>
>> On Thu, April 10, 2008 9:51 am, BDD-AT2005 wrote:
>>
>>> Next week (approx 17 April) I hope to start the
>>> continuation of my PCT hiking experience. I'm looking
>>> for any updates, snow conditions, and water info that
>>> anyone may have. I called Donna Saufley yesterday and
>>> a trail angel in Wrightwood. I will keep Asabat
>>> updated when I begin. Any help with current
>>> conditions is appreciated.
>>> Big Daddy D
>>>
>>
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