[pct-l] Solio solar charger ???

Wed Apr 9 11:31:45 CDT 2008

O.K., I'm really stupid about what you're trying to do here, but...I have a
gizmo that I plug into my lighter socket and then I can plug a two-pronged
anything into that.  For blowing up a mattress pad, using a lamp, hair
dryer/curler, etc.  Would that help?  I think I got it at Target...works
great!!
FireFly

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>   4. Re: Solio solar charger question (Jason Schripsema)
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>   6. Re: Solio solar charger question (Patrick Beggan)
>   7. Re: Solio solar charger question (Jason Schripsema)
>   8. Re: Solio solar charger question (Laura Fox)
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:54:42 -0400
> From: Laura Fox Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can
> charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> something?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:07:08 -0700
> From: Patrick Beggan <meta474 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I take it you're using an SLR, Laura? I'm bringing my digital rebel
> and I have a similar problem (proprietary Li-ion battery and wall
> charger). I've heard there're ways around it but they involve buying a
> new charger. Hopefully someone knows more than I do.
>
> As of right now I'm just going to charge them wherever I can find a
> socket in town. I spent some time backpacking in colorado and you'd be
> surprised where you can find a two-pronged socket -- I've even seen
> soda machines plugged into them, although I thought they used a bigger
> plug. You better believe I unplugged that soda machine, charged my
> battery, then plugged it back in. :P
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Laura Fox wrote:
>
> > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can
> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> > proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> > the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> > seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> > something?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:09:23 -0700
> From: "AsABat" Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: "'Laura Fox'" <laura.fox at yale.edu>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.
> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert
> the 3VDC to 120VAC.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may
> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the
> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.
>
> 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one
> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.
>
> 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take
> some creative reengineering.
>
> 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of
> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is
> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery
> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure.
>
> 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be
> charged from USB.
>
> I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my
> instructions and blow up your camera <grin, but hopefully others have
> some better ideas.
>
> AsABat
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laura Fox [mailto:laura.fox at yale.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:55 PM
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> >
> > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can
> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> > proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> > the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> > seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> > something?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jason Schripsema >
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> laura, i've thought about this too (i shoot a 5d mostly), the problem is
> that your wall charger runs off ac and the solio only produces dc.  so you'd
> need to convert dc to ac and then plug in your charger.
>
> what you want to look for is some sort of car charger that will charge the
> canon battery straight from dc.  i haven't found this, but then again, i
> haven't looked very hard either.  i think you may have to carry your wall
> charger and "bum" an outlet here and there on your supply stops.  :-s
>
>
> Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu> wrote: Hey, I was wondering if anybody on
> here knows how (if...) I can
> charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> something?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:14:45 -0700
> From: Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, 'Laura Fox' <laura.fox at yale.edu>
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> At 4:09 PM -0700 4/8/08, AsABat wrote:
> >5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be
> >charged from USB.
> >
> >I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my
> >instructions and blow up your camera <grin>, but hopefully others have
> >some better ideas.
>
> If I had the opportunity to do a major through hike of 400-plus miles
> or more than a month out, I would make sure I was taking a camera
> that used non-proprietary batteries such as AA or AAA.
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:21:39 -0700
> From: Patrick Beggan <meta474 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> There are no SLRs that use AA or AAA batteries. If you want to take an
> SLR, you have to use the batteries you have to use.
>
> You could of course use this to segue into the old argument about "you
> can't make a thru-hike about photography and the hike both" but I
> think that's nonsense. If you want to carry an SLR, if you want a
> camera that requires a little more work to charge, then that's all up
> to you.
>
> Of course, I'm bias because I'm doing this exact same thing. None the
> less, as everyone seems to say around here (and yet not necessarily
> believe I think), Hike Your Own Hike.
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Steve Sergeant wrote:
>
> > At 4:09 PM -0700 4/8/08, AsABat wrote:
> >> 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be
> >> charged from USB.
> >>
> >> I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of
> >> my
> >> instructions and blow up your camera <grin>, but hopefully others
> >> have
> >> some better ideas.
> >
> > If I had the opportunity to do a major through hike of 400-plus miles
> > or more than a month out, I would make sure I was taking a camera
> > that used non-proprietary batteries such as AA or AAA.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jason Schripsema <solartrix at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>, 'Laura Fox' <laura.fox at yale.edu>,
>        pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> hmmmm.....  i am cursed as being technical.  i'd say stay away from 1-4
> below unless you really know what you're doing...  even then, maybe still
> stay away...  :-)
>
>
> AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote: The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The
> wall charger requires 120 volts AC.
> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert
> the 3VDC to 120VAC.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may
> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the
> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.
>
> 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one
> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.
>
> 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take
> some creative reengineering.
>
> 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of
> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is
> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery
> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure.
>
> 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be
> charged from USB.
>
> I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my
> instructions and blow up your camera
> some better ideas.
>
> AsABat
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laura Fox [mailto:laura.fox at yale.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:55 PM
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> >
> > Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can
> > charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> > www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> > considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> > into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> > proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> > by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> > removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> > would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> > the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> > can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> > lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> > seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> > something?
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:31:32 -0400
> From: Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> D'oh!  I hated the electricity & magnetism portion of my high school
> physics class.  AC, DC ... what does some rock band have to do with
> my camera battery??
>
> Oh well.  I guess it looks like I could get a car charger for my
> camera battery, then the car cigarette lighter attachment for the
> Solio, and with that mess it would work.  But that's probably not be
> worth the expense and weight.
>
> Also I could get a camera that takes AAs, but I am too picky about
> cameras for that.
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:09 PM, AsABat wrote:
>
> > The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.
> > As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert
> > the 3VDC to 120VAC.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:37:27 -0400
> From: <taterno at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu>
> Message-ID: <20080408193727.N2XJZ.227906.imail at fed1rmwml05>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Laura,
> What is the output DC voltage of the charger?  You can find this on the
> label on the charger.  Depending on its output, I may be able to rig
> something up to charge the battery.  But beware, as AsABat states, the
> charge may not shut off when it should using the method.
>
> Bring your camera and charger out here and I will do my best to make it
> work.  What is the model number of your Canon camera, and is there a model
> number on the battery?
>
>
> Tom KI6ASP
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Laura Fox <laura.fox at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> =============
> Hey, I was wondering if anybody on here knows how (if...) I can
> charge my camera battery using a Solio hybrid solar charger (http://
> www.solio.com/charger/explore-solio/solio-hybrid-1000.php)
> considering that my camera battery has a charger that must be plugged
> into a regular two-pronged wall socket.  I have a Canon camera with a
> proprietary battery and a wall charger.  The battery can't be charged
> by plugging the camera into a USB port, it can only be charged by
> removing the battery from the camera and using the wall charger.  It
> would be great if I could just somehow plug that wall charger into
> the Solio.  The Solio seems to have all these wacky connectors you
> can buy to plug in all kinds of cell phones, but no connector that
> lets you use it like a regular old two-pronged wall outlet.  This
> seems odd to me.  Anybody on here happen to know whether I'm missing
> something?
> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:43:33 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio solar charger question
> To: "'Jason Schripsema'" <solartrix at yahoo.com>, "'Laura Fox'"
>        <laura.fox at yale.edu>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <002701c899d2$5b4ffdd0$6501010a at PC8>
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>
> Actually number 1 isn't bad if the charger and the wall cord are two
> separate parts. I guess I wasn't clear enough. I have several chargers
> for radios and phones where the cord actually unplugs from the charger.
> I can then move the charger to the car by using a 12-volt adapter.
>
> Number 2 presumes Canon makes a 12-volt charger for the camera.
>
> I agree, numbers 3 and 4 are in the "don't try this at home" category.
>
> AsABat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> hmmmm.....  i am cursed as being technical.  i'd say stay away from 1-4
> below unless you really know what you're doing...  even then, maybe
> still stay away...  :-)
>
>
> AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote:
> The Solio puts out 3 volts DC. The wall charger requires 120 volts AC.
> As is, you can't use the charger as you'd need an inverter to convert
> the 3VDC to 120VAC.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> 1. If the cord on the charger has a plug so it can be removed, you may
> be able to use the charger without the wall plug, just plugging the
> solio directly into the charger without the wall plug cord.
>
> 2. See if a different charger is available for the camera, maybe one
> that plugs into a car 12 volt socket.
>
> 3. Find a way to wire the Solio to the charger anyway. This might take
> some creative reengineering.
>
> 4. Find a way to connect the Solio directly to the battery. Since one of
> the functions of the charger is to stop the charging when the battery is
> full, this could result in overcharging unless you remove the battery
> when it is "full" - how you would know this I'm not sure.
>
> 5. Get a new camera that uses nonproprietary batteries and/or can be
> charged from USB.
>
> I'm not real technically oriented, so do not actually follow any of my
> instructions and blow up your camera
> some better ideas.
>
>
>
>
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