[pct-l] JMT Permit......BAD ADVICE given

[Junaid Dawud]

LOL,

oh man did I get a good chuckle out of that last line!

Yes, where does L-Rod stand on the issue of too many
hikers at one spot at one time. too funny.

peace---------Speshul 41



--- Donna Saufley <dsaufley at sprynet.com> wrote:

> I agree with you on one thing -- the permit isn't
> there to be abused, or the
> resources of the PCTA utilized unnecessarily.  But
> where is the dividing
> line?  It would be best to find out from the PCTA
> directly on this one, and
> abide by their opinion.  Until then, I fail to see
> an issue.  It seems
> simple to me: if getting short term permits wasn't
> acceptable, they wouldn't
> have that category and wouldn't offer a permit for
> 500 miles.  
> 
> Permits appear to be an ongoing need on many levels,
> for different reasons;
> it's unlikely that they'd ever be eliminated. 
> What's the next best thing?
> Offload the function at no cost to the agency(ies). 
> It also solves the
> problem of what agency should handle the PCT
> permits, since the PCT passes
> through the jurisdictions of many private, county,
> state, and federal areas.
> 
> 
> So far, the PCT permit does not limit the number of
> people in a particular
> place at a particular time.  But that could easily
> change if the agencies
> become concerned about large numbers of people on
> the trail at once.  Gee,
> where does that thought lead me?
> 
> L-Rod
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Carl Siechert
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: pct-l
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] JMT Permit......BAD ADVICE
> given
> 
> I've gotta disagree with you on this one, Donna. If
> the agencies' goal was
> to "ease the burden," they'd simply eliminate the
> permit requirement
> altogether. The purpose of the permit system is
> two-fold: to limit the
> number of people in a particular place at a
> particular time, and to gather
> information about wilderness usage. Your end run
> around the rules (just
> because you can do it without getting caught doesn't
> make it right) does
> nothing to further either goal and, in fact, works
> against each one.
> 
> >From the PCTA's perspective, I don't know whether
> artificially inflating
> the
> numbers helps in the long run, but I'd correct your
> statement to read "it
> gives the PCTA *an erroneous* statistic to use in
> their assessment of trail
> use"
> 
> Cheers,
> Carl
> 
> 
> On 6/16/07, Donna Saufley <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff (aka Buzz Saw) and I have gotten 500+ mile
> permits for the PCT every
> > year for the past four years.  This is not only
> allowable, it gives the
> > PCTA
> > a statistic to use in their assessment of trail
> use.
> >
> > I believe that the agencies delegated the
> permitting authority to the PCTA
> > to ease the burden on the agencies.  I don't think
> there's really any
> > difference -- the important thing is to have a
> permit for the area you're
> > in, and know the rules.
> >
> > I know of some folks who get a thru permit every
> year, so they can hike at
> > will without burdening agencies or themselves with
> getting individual
> > permits.  I don't see the harm in this at all. 
> Lots of folks do this
> >
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