[pct-l] PCT-Waldo lake area quiet again

[RJ Lewis]

I'm with you Judson. I'm going to be gone for a few days out hiking- 
I'll be back sometime near the end of the week.  A bit off topic though, 
in that I'm going up to Mt Rainier National Park to hike....it's in my 
"backyard" so I am going to take advantage of it. Guess it doesn't 
matter where you hike, as long as you do so! =)

HYOH folks, but please, HIKE!

RJ

Judson wrote:
> I'm glad I'm going out to hike the PCT for 8 days so I don't have to listen 
> to this.
>
> I'm going from McKenzie Pass to Cascade Locks; will give a report upon my 
> return.
>
> Judson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Danniken" <danniken at comcast.net>
> To: "Paul Martin Smith" <paulmartinsmith2004 at yahoo.co.uk>; "PCT-L mailing 
> group" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-Waldo lake area quiet again
>
>
> Deliberately providing misinformation and flat out lying only serves to
> erode whatever trust people are willing to put into environmental causes.
> While it might get you brownie points within a *very* small circle of
> people, most will tend to associate your deception with all who claim to be
> in support of environmental causes, with the end result that any progress is
> eroded away in the climate of distrust which you have created.
>
> In other words, if your only reason for supporting the environment is to
> inflate your own ego, find another area of interest; many have worked too
> hard, too honestly, for these causes and do not need you to undermine the
> efforts at educating people with honest and reliable data.
>
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Martin Smith" <paulmartinsmith2004 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "PCT-L mailing group" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-Waldo lake area quiet again
>
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> My apologies if you consider this information misleading. The quotations
> were from Associated Press,  précised from several local newspapers and a
> back channel source within NFS and deemed to be accurate.
> My report was an attempt to bring some good news to a trail system that is
> always under threat from encroachment and misuse by various groups.
>
> I am pleased to learn that Jon is such an active supporter of the motor
> craft ban and an expansion of Wilderness areas.  I wish more people on this
> list would be as enthusiastic!
>
>
> Paul Martin Smith
> PCTA volunteer coordinator - Mid Oregon
> paulmartinsmith2004 at yahoo.co.uk
> 541 207 3255
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>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jon Danniken <danniken at comcast.net>
> To: Paul Martin Smith <paulmartinsmith2004 at yahoo.co.uk>; PCT-L mailing group
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:24:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-Waldo lake area quiet again
>
> "Paul Martin Smith" wrote:
>   
>> This is an important political decision made in the
>> face of strong opposition from well connected developers.
>>     
>
> Um, no, it was a decision made to help preserve the water quality in the
> third clearest lake in the world.  The decision had nothing to do with "well
> connected developers", because there is no developable land anywhere up near
> Waldo Lake.
>
>   
>> PCT, which passes by the lake at a higher
>> elevation will be a lot quieter in future years.
>>     
>
> Again, more misinformation.  Waldo Lake already had a 10 MPH speed limit,
> which precluded racing boats or anything else which could be heard from the
> PCT from operating in it's waters, which is one and a half miles at the
> closest to Waldo Lake.   Banning motors from Waldo Lakewill have *zero*
> effect on noise on the PCT.
>
> As for myself, a Eugene resident, I have long supported a motor ban on Waldo
> Lake, in addition to extending the Wilderness Boundary to include the trail
> around the lake.
>
> I don't know why you chose to try and turn this into something which it is
> not, but it is extremely disengenuous of you to do so.
>
> Jon
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