Here's a different water bottle carrier. http://picasaweb.google.com/armchairhiker/WaterBottleCarrier/photo#5029549715288675938 and for the heck of it, another beautiful sunrise is San Diego. http://picasaweb.google.com/armchairhiker/AnotherBeautifulSunriseInSanDiego/photo#5029550419663312514