[pct-l] Extra water caches needed on section A

[montypct]

Hey Roni!!!

I like the idea of not having to carry a lot of water too.  This can be a 
long hot stretch and that makes carrying less weight MORE attractive
.
If I remember right, there were a couple of questions that would need to be 
answered for this question about caches.

Where would the cache go?  Where can a vehicle drive to along this stretch?
Where are the roads private or gated and locked?
Where would a person ask permission?

IF, and I believe the above questions would find big difficulties, if it 
were feasible.................................

Putting the water out there would require that a responsible water cacher 
return to, police the area and remove the cache when done to insure that NO 
empties are left at the cache or in the surrounding areas and the area is 
left spotless of any Hikertrash trash.

A difficulty in access and, most important, proper cache care by the cacher 
in that remote area.

I have always heard that 2 gallons of water is suggested for that stretch. 
For me, that would well cover the two extra that Pea suggests, but 1 1/2 
gallons with a cache to top off for emergencies would be a dream in that 
area.

I'll see you at the border, Roni, the 21st with my 2 gallons or so of water 
just before sunrise.
(Another help is to start hiking as early in the morning as possible)

Warner Springs Monty


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "roni h" <roni_h3000 at yahoo.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:42 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Extra water caches needed on section A


> It seems this is going to be an extremaly dry year in soutern California, 
> which means many of the usual water sources would possibly be dry by hiker 
> season.
>  This might be extremaly problematic in the begining of the trail, on 
> section A, when Hikers are not yet acclimated to the heat.
>  I'f I'm not mistaken it takes about a week or two to the body to get 
> acclimized to the heat, even if You are in otherwise great physical 
> condition.
>  This means that in case of a heat wave, which is not uncommon for this 
> area, many hikers might discover they can't safly hike as far as they 
> initialy planned, and that they are running out of water faster than they 
> have expected.   This (I think) has happend already to at least one pct 
> thruhiker this year.
>
>
>  Therefore, adding a few water caches on the very begining of the pct 
> might be an important safty measure.
>
>  Her's a suggestion:  Could some of the people driving hikers to the 
> trailhead at campo, create a couple of water caches on the way, and 
> publisize on the pct-l where they are?
>   That way hopefully it could be found on the online water source  page 
> (I'm not sure whats its direct e-mail) 
> http://www.4jeffrey.net/pctwater  .
>
>
>
>  Any cache on the first section should be pretty a big cache, as chances 
> are that at least on the first 30 miles of the pct, some illegale mexican 
> imigrents will "share" the cache. If the cache is big enough and placed 
> close enough the the kickoff date, chances are that some water will remain 
> for hikers.
>
>  I'm not sure where the best location for the cach/caches would be, but 
> I'm sure You can find somewhere  that would break the 20 mile waterless 
> sections that pottentialy might happen if water dries up.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Roni
>
>
>
>  P.S  All the "I'm not a troll, I have legitimate opinions about water 
> caching" people:
>  Please, please postpone writing Your knee jerk reaction about water 
> caches for a couple of  days.   This is an important issue, which would be 
> potencialy very beneficial to many hikers and I really hope this won't 
> deteriorate to one of  fruitless heated argument that are not uncommon 
> with some subjects on this forum.
>
>  Thanks again
>
>
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