[pct-l] [pct2006] Re: Ray Memorial

[Ned Tibbits]

It saddens me to hear that we are such purest that we can't remember a man that gave so much to "The Trail"  Is it so much about our own hike that we can't take a minute  to recognize a fallen fellow hiker?  Has anyone taken the time to ask his wife what she feels his desire would have been?  Has everyone forgot that the mountains can be dangerous and need to recognize as such?  Being a wife of a mountaineer who hiked the trail before it was even a completed trail and a section hiker myself (JMT 1984 and on) I would be deeply dishearten to hear others not wanting to recognize his love of the Sierras and the PCT.  Without the ones who have gone before, you would not have a Trail to follow.

Lady J

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sharon allen 
  To: pct2006 at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:42 PM
  Subject: RE: [pct2006] Re: Ray Memorial


  I'm not writing this to inflame anything (please don't hate me!), but rather 
  because what is discussed in this group impacts hikers in the coming years 
  (I'll be hiking in 2007) and I'd like to be able to have my input 
  recognized.

  I have to agree with Jeff and his argument (particularly about deciding who 
  earns memorials and who does not), however there is another piece of the 
  story for me. I think remembering people is important, but I would prefer to 
  keep memorials off the trail. I'll be hiking next year in part because I 
  want to be in the wilderness. Plaques, benches, and such take away from 
  that experience (at least for me). I think to imagine that the people for 
  whom these memorials would be placed would also want to retain that same 
  wild character.

  I think it's great to find ways to remember the people who are lost to us 
  during their time on the trail. Their lives are important, and their 
  absence brings a lot of pain to this community. However, I would hope that 
  it might be possible to find a way to remember them that might also pay 
  honor to wanderlust-filled spirits and the love of the wilderness and 
  hiking.

  Hope I don't sound cold-hearted. My intention is not to discourage 
  remembering
  -Sharon

  >From: "Jeff Singewald" <singewald at earthlink.net>
  >Reply-To: pct2006 at yahoogroups.com
  >To: pct2006 at yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: [pct2006] Re: Ray Memorial
  >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:30:26 -0000
  >
  >Meadow Ed,
  >
  >A bit late with my comments but I will share my own personal feelings
  >regarding the placement of a memorial on the PCT. I don't like the
  >idea quite frankly. This summer while hiking the PCT, I noted several
  >memorials placed along the trail and I don't feel that the trail
  >should be the place for these. I realize that you were fond of Ray
  >and that Ray had a special connection with the PCTA, but I am not
  >interested in having a memorial for each hiker that dies along the
  >trail and I really don't think it is wise to pick and choose who gets
  >one and who doesn't.
  >
  >One alternative is to place a memorial somewhere along the trail to
  >remember all those that have passed or will pass away while on the
  >trail, but I am not supportive of individual memorials.
  >
  >My response may be controversial, but hey, that's my feedback.
  >
  >Jeff Singewald
  >
  >--- In pct2006 at yahoogroups.com, "edfaubert" <edfaubert at ...> wrote:
  > >
  > > I just came back from Aldha W and it was discussed about perhaps
  >either
  > > putting a plaque or maby some type of memorial bench up by the area
  > > where Ray died..... We should also consider maby adding the other
  >names
  > > of the hikers who died this year or in Johns case last year.... This
  >is
  > > just food for thought for the class of 06 to ponder as your year
  >will
  > > always be known by this tradegy as well as the high snow year.....If
  > > any one from the class of 06 has some ideas get back with me in a
  >few
  > > weeks as i am going to Aldha E and will be gone for a few weeks......
  > > Meadow Ed
  > >
  >
  >
  >



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