[pct-l] Idyllwild and Tahquitz Inn situation

[Brick Robbins]

On August 15th of this year, this page
http://www.idyllwildpct.com/
contained a "thru hiker, dont come here" message. Today it doesn't

Does that mean something?

see this list post
Jason Waicunas <pct2005 at hotmail.com>
date: Aug 15, 2006 7:16 AM	
subject: [pct-l] Trail town woes / business closures.

On 12/19/06, Adam Bradley <tooloouk79852 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello all, Listo out here munching on fruitcakes!
> Very psyched to be heading to baja on saturday.
>
> As far as TI goes those folks are awesome!  When I
> showed up after the wad went thru the owners where
> bent about some clowns being a pain about the price on
> weekends at the TI.  It was funny as they increase the
> price on weekends which is common in a small resort
> town like Idyllwild.  Evedintly the comment was "why
> are you all trying to gouge the thru hikers?"  I
> showed up on a off day with heidi and later split the
> room with hot rod.  The woman running the place was
> very nice and I tried to let her know that we all
> weren't like the other rude hikers.  I went in later
> and needed some thread (which came in real handy when
> my pack straps broke shy of forrester) which I carried
> all the way to canada.  I found them to be very
> helpful and go way out of their way to help out the
> pct hikers.  I in no way got the impression they were
> going to be closing the door on hikers.  On another
> note I found it odd that a hiker would complain and be
> rude about the price with a park right across the
> street with a campground.  If a hiker didn't like the
> price no need to rub their nose in it.  So I went down
> to the health food store and I asked the woman who
> owned the store how much for organic orange juice.
> She said 8$ which I thought was expensive for my
> budget, but it jived with what it must cost to import
> organic goods up here.  I didn't exlaim, "oh you suck,
> wot you give us the shaft?"  No I just thought I
> cannot afford that and kindly put it back.  When I got
> ready to make my other purchases she asked if I was a
> pct hiker and I said yes.  She said all pct hikers get
> 10% discount.  I guarantee she wouldn't have given me
> a deal if I was rubbing her nose in the price of OJ.
> So you thru hikers out front try to be respectful for
> us behind you.  If you don't like the price work
> harder and put away more money.  Thru hiking for me is
> not about what others do for me, but what can I do for
> others or the trails I love.
>
> As far as whores on trail go, I thought it was people
> who hiked for causes like myself who where whores?  Or
> fruitcakes, or anti social......
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure of the specifics either, but I too
> > heard that the TI withdrew
> > the welcome mat after most of the thru-hikers had
> > come through Idyllwild--
> > so it was a late-season group. I guess one of the
> > rooms was trashed and the
> > hikers were less than grateful regarding rides to
> > and from the traihead at
> > Devil's Slide. I'm not sure who the group was, but
> > they really blew it for
> > the hikers on this trail. I was incensed when I
> > heard about it and even sent
> > the owner a postcard thanking him for the generosity
> > he showed our group.
> >  This is yet another example of rude, selfish
> > behavior leading to a true
> > 'tragedy of the commons' on the trail. I observed
> > this numerous times this
> > year. What's with these hikers that think everyone
> > else should be so
> > awestruck by their undertaking that they should just
> > receive, receive,
> > receive? Whereas most hikers have the humbleness in
> > character to propogate
> > trail magic, it only takes one or two spoiled brats
> > to create the fallout
> > and ruin it for everyone forever. I think the
> > Tahquitz Inn situation is a
> > good example.
> >  I don't know what to suggest, but thought I'd
> > mention this as something I
> > didn't expect to see on the trail but certainly, and
> > most unfortunately,
> > did.
> >  Whiptail.....
> >
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Brick Robbins
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