[pct-l] If lost, and if at possible, stay out of canyons

[cmkudija at earthlink.net]

There's a comprehensive set of articles about the Kims here: 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/09/BAGTJMSJ9T1.DTL

Sometimes you do what you think is best, after much careful 
consideration.  What a shame.
Christine "Ceanothus" Kudija

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On Fri Dec 08 12:17:10 PST 2006, Will Hiltz <will.hiltz at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> In later-stage hypothermia, the body rushes the warm blood from 
> your core to
> the skin, giving the sensation of warmth.... Most likely he was 
> feeling
> these effects which lead to the impromtu clothes-shedding.  
> Obviously, if
> you're ever out in the backcountry and you see someone in this 
> situation-
> they need medical attention immediately.
> 
> 
> Be Safe!
> 
> YITOOD
> 
> 
> On 12/8/06, David <dajada at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know the answers to all these questions but I can say 
>> that it
>> being reported that the map they were using showed this road 
>> being
>> more "major" than it was and listed it as a scenic byway.  When 
>> they
>> attempted to turn around they decended a road that was supposed 
>> to be
>> gated and locked for the season but vandals had broken the lock. 
>>  IMHO
>> the vandals should be put up on charges if they could be found.  
>> It
>> sounds like they chose that road rather than the busier one 
>> because it
>> decended out of the snow and appeared on the map as a possible 
>> option.
>> It doesn't sound like the "busier" road had traffic on it 
>> either.  I
>> also don't believe he was taking off articles of clothing but 
>> rather
>> carrying extra clothing to mark his path.  It is being reported 
>> that
>> some of the clothing was his daughters and he was also using 
>> paper.
>> 
>> David D.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/8/06, dsaufley at sprynet.com <dsaufley at sprynet.com> wrote:
>> > I know this is a cruel thing to say when someone loved by many 
>> is lost,
>> but all of the choices that this guy made make him a candidate 
>> for the
>> Darwin award.
>> >
>> > -  What were they doing on that road in the first place; a 
>> road the
>> forest service said is bad even in summer?
>> > -  Why weren't they carrying chains going into a snowy area?  
>> Or a
>> shovel?
>> > -  Why did he go down the canyon instead of following the road 
>> he drove
>> in on back to a busier road?
>> > -  I understand he took off articles of clothing to "leave a 
>> trail;"
>> apparently ignorant of the dangers of hypothermia.
>> >
>> > This was an entirely preventable tragedy.  I feel terrible for 
>> his wife,
>> children, and family, but honestly, it also makes me angry that 
>> he and his
>> wife put their little babies at such risk with their ignorance.
>> >
>> > L-Rod
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