[pct-l] Mont Bell down sweater

[Mike Saenz]

It's not an issue with a reduction in my core temperature, but of wet
skin exposed to cold wind. Just getting the wind off my hands keeps them
warm. Gripping my poles and walking pumps plenty of warm blood through
my hands. That's what my gloves do even when wet: keeps the wind off of
them.

I've eyed cyclist gloves for this, but there are still times when it's
just plain cold and fleece gloves are comfy. I've also seen some gloves
made of thinner high-tech fleece that probably are lighter/warmer/more
protective, but since my old gloves do the trick, I don't do anything
more than look.

Michael  Saenz
Associate Partner

MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors 
Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu

1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Tortoise [mailto:Tortoise73 at charter.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:09 PM
To: Mike Saenz
Cc: Vic Hanson; pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mont Bell down sweater

Hmmmmm?

Would covering up other parts of the body help keep the hands warm?
Like covering your head to warm up your body, especially cold feet.

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Mike Saenz wrote:
> Great feedback! Thanks.
> 
> I'll still pack my Marmot Oracle shell. A bit heavier than the Frog
> Togs, but it's remarkably comfortable while being totally waterproof
and
> very breathable. Even against bare skin during cold weather. It
doesn't
> feel clammy like some other waterproof shells do. I'd use it over the
> delicate fabric the current crop of UL down sweaters use.
> 
> RE the cold hands- I picked up a pair of TNF fleece glove in a bargain
> bin at REI a long time ago. Even when soaking wet, they keep my hands
> warm! But after a day of wet hiking with trekking poles, they get to
> smelling mighty nasty... Though the smell can get rinsed off fairly
> easily. I've been on the lookout for something much thinner- more of a
> wind block skin. My hands only get cold when wet and exposed.
> 
> Michael  Saenz
> Associate Partner
> 
> MVE & Partners, Inc. | Architecture + Planning + Interiors 
> Irvine + Oakland + Honolulu
> 
> 1900 Main Street, Suite 800 | Irvine, California 92614-7318 | T
> 949.809.3388 | www.mve-architects.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Vic Hanson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:31 PM
> To: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Mont Bell down sweater
> 
> Mike,
>    
>   I used the Mont Bell down sweater this year on my thru hike and
loved
> it. I never used it when hiking though because it was too warm after
> just a few minutes (like when I forgot to take it off on cold mornings
> when I started hiking). I wore a DuoFold short sleeve T-shirt the
whole
> time, added a DuoFold long sleeve one in Washington when it got
colder.
> I also used a Montane Pertex shell (3.7 oz I think) as my outer layer.
> It only has a half zipper which was my only complaint, a full zip
would
> be better to regulate temp better. I ended up pulling it up from the
> waist at times to avoid stopping and taking my pack off to remove it.
> Those four tops were sufficient all through California and Oregon. I
> used a silk underwear top to sleep in for about the first third of the
> trip, but rarely bothered with it later and finally stopped carrying
it.
> The only other top I used was a North Face hooded rain jacket that I
got
> on sale for about $10, Not breathable but never leaked and I
>  just unzipped it if I needed ventilation. I think I had that sent to
me
> in Seiad Valley. I wore it a lot in Washington, especially the last
week
> as we had cold rainy weather. I didn't carry rainpants. My biggest
cold
> problem was my hands, which get cold easily. Should have had some
> waterproof gloves, mine weren't and I had cold wet hands a lot.
>    
>   Sugar Daddy
> 
> 
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>  
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>  
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