[pct-l] the whole truth

Adam Bradley tooloouk79852 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 5 22:36:59 CST 2006


dust, bring it!

listo del norte
--- Dust <pcttdust at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sounds like some former hiker has been spending too
> much time in 4-wall land.
> 
> Really, Adam, quit harrassing my girlfriend or
> you'll get a knuckle sandwich.
> 
> 
> Adam Bradley <tooloouk79852 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>  Hello Yogi,
>   Listo del Norte (or Adam soon to be monster truck
> in
> spanish) here.  I don't really consider any of my
> posts to be personal attacks on you.  This is a
> great
> response as I have saved all these as well.  However
> you didn't speak to corrections like the "bermuda
> triangle" or ramona falls to name just a few.  Are
> these corrected in your current guidebook your
> selling
> now?  If not does the book come with the black
> marker
> you so highly recommend to ammend all of the
> corrections one must make if they foolishly purchase
> your book in advance hoping to prepare for a pct
> thru
> hike?  Also this was a reply to sly not you.  I will
> tell you one thing you wouldn't last 10 seconds as a
> rafting guide, need tough skin to handle all the
> ribbing.  I felt as far as running into you at ALDHA
> you where avoiding contact due to over reacting to a
> customer of yours.  I will stand by my judgment that
> you have poor customer service skills and I know
> this
> to be true as I am not the first to comment on them.
> 
> Just maybe the first to speak publicly about it. 
> You
> don't have much backbone yogi.  I can remember a
> friend of mine who I don't think was the best guide
> berating his guests saying " you people paddle like
> slugs, what do you think you can just ooze down the
> river?"  I find it interesting that in my version of
> the book you recommend people sleep with food under
> their feet or head.  Now to a person born and raised
> in Alaska that is just a bunch of nonsense, but then
> obviously you caved to peer pressure and took the
> easy
> route suggesting bear barrels.  To a thru hiker
> (expert in route to jedi) like myself it seems like
> you don't have it all figured out like you make out
> you do.  I suggest to anyone thinking about wasting
> money on this guide consider this.  Are you
> completely
> clueless?  if the answer is yes this might be the
> route to go.  If you have any wilderness skills at
> all
> this is wasted money.  Hell, I bet you can find a
> old
> copy and just make photo copies.  Many folks ran out
> of funding on trail this year.  Some folks had
> trouble
> paying their tabs at resturaunts or donating money
> to
> the trail angels whose homes we stayed in along the
> way.  Which I found it extremely funny that you
> where
> so quick to pay for someones meal when so short with
> someone who purchased your book.  The best planning
> guide in my opinion is written by the Jardines. 
> Minus
> all the corn pasta stuff.  Also on another note, I
> have heard from some of my trail compatriots that
> you
> think people who hike for causes are "whores"?  I
> have
> to contact them to find refrence to this post, but
> that is deeply disturbing to someone who hikes for
> causes.  Of course all of these above issues will be
> written about in depth and posted on my website when
> I
> have the time.  I am crazy busy now paying bills and
> preparing for another crossing from the cortez to
> the
> pacific through the sierra la laguna.  I am planning
> another thru hike for 2007 and benefit for the trail
> I
> will be hiking.  I am making a presentation of my
> 2006
> thru hike.  Working 70hr weeks.  But I am not a
> martyr.  This is what Listo does. A few things to
> ponder.  First take a look at Trail Journals and
> look
> up yogi's AT journals.  One look at a photo of how
> you
> equipped yourself speaks a thousand words.  It all
> clicks and makes sense now why your opinion doesn't
> mean much to someone as myself.  In the copy of your
> guidebook you say something about hiker behavior. 
> Smile say please and thank you.  What happened? 
> Myself, I have realized that the path I was walking
> this summer I am actually on it all the time.  It is
> the path of life.  I am trying to follow through,
> stop
> and think before I react.  My behavior on trail and
> off are one.  My life on trail and off are one.  Now
> I
> have your book out and am perusing as I write this
> and
> a flood of memories are hitting me as to all the
> things that are just flat out wrong in this book. 
> Lastly, after the bermuda triangle I never again
> once
> looked at the guidebook.  How did I make It?  common
> sense.  
> 
> listo del norte    
> --- yogi  wrote:
> 
> > A warning to everyone:  This is a LONG post. 
> After
> > being slandered on PCT-L by Adam Bradley for the
> > last
> > two months, today I'll respond.
> > 
> > The short version is this:
> > 
> > In February 2005, the PCTA issued a new Data Book
> > with
> > new mileage.  This mileage did not match my book. 
> > At
> > that time, I personally emailed every person who
> had
> > purchased my book recently and offered them a
> > revision
> > package for the Part 2 pages.  Adam chose to not
> > obtain the revision at that time, even though my
> > email
> > clearly stated that I was only printing enough
> > revision packages for those who requested them.
> > 
> > ONE YEAR LATER, Adam requested the revision
> package,
> > which was no longer available.  Had he requested
> the
> > revision package at the time it was offered, he
> > would
> > have been able to get it.  This was a one-time
> > offer,
> > and Adam declined the offer when he got it.  
> > 
> > The email exchange between Adam and I follows this
> > post.  I'm posting the emails here because Adam
> > chose
> > to post only a snip of one of my emails, which
> does
> > not tell the whole story.
> > 
> > It's quite clear that Adam does not like my book. 
> > That's his prerogative.  But instead of speaking
> to
> > me
> > in person about this, Adam chose to cowardly
> attack
> > me
> > from behind a computer screen.  You see, Adam
> > attended
> > the ALDHA-West Gathering in Sep-Oct 2006.  I was
> at
> > the Gathering, too.  In fact, I was assigned the
> > duty
> > of taking the dinner meal tickets for Friday and
> > Saturday nights.  If Adam ate dinner either night,
> > then we must have met.  I had a name tag on.  He
> > could
> > have discussed his issues with me at the
> Gathering. 
> > That would have been the mature way to handle his
> > dislike of my work.  Unfortunately, Adam chose the
> > childish route, which was to slander me on the
> > PCT-L. 
> > 
> > 
> > So, if you're still reading this, and if you're
> the
> > least bit interested, here are those emails ---
> the
> > complete emails, not just snips --- from February
> > 2006
> > which seem to be Adam's basis for my supposed
> > terrible
> > customer service:
> > 
> > 
> > FIRST email from Adam:
> > 
> > Yogi,
> > 
> > I am putting together a PCT hike this 2006. I have
> a
> > older copy of your book 2004. I would like to get
> 
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