[pct-l] Mountain Education's Spam Schedule

[Wayne Kraft]

Right on, Danniken!  So listen up buster and listen up good: If you  
are accomplishing anything in life, doing anything productive  
whatever, you have no right to contribute one single comment to this  
list, let alone take a leadership position in any organization  
relating to the PCT or any other trail.  Unless your income is  
derived completely from funds held in a blind trust comprised solely  
of the lottery winnings of someone you've never met and whose  
identity you don't know, keep your greedy, self-indulgent comments to  
yourself.  Your role is limited solely and completely to making  
generous anonymous donations to charities Danniken pre-approves and  
don't you even think about trying to take a charitable deduction on  
your tax return you amoral capitalist pigs, you.  The nerve of you  
people!  You should be giving away those tents and backpacks you  
designed and manufactured for free to the less fortunate and hiding  
as much information about trail survival as you can so as to make  
certain only the most elite master of adventure will dare hike a  
trail.  As for Danniken and me, we're going to hike the PCT naked  
carrying nothing more than a recycled shopping bag full of dried  
field corn and we're going to walk backwards the whole way so that  
Dick Cheney can't sneak up on us and we're going to wear tin foil  
hats just in case.

Why, oh why, do I read this dreck, let alone respond?  I have  
apparently lost my mind.  By the way, seriously now, if any of you  
respond to me off list about this I will immediately and gleefully  
post your cowardly "private" response to the list and then tack a  
printed hard copy, translated into French, German and Swahili  to  
front door of the brewpub nearest your home.


On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:

> K Murray wrote:
>>
>> ... how do you explain your post here?
>
> This problem is not only limited to Ned Tibbits spamming this list  
> (and
> other
> backpacking forums) for his Mountain Education company, but is  
> indicative of
> what a growing number of entities who insinuate themselves with the  
> PCT are
> doing.
>
> You need look no farther than what Greg Hummel does with the  
> ADZPCTKOP to
> see an example of this. By encouraging and providing a place for  
> commercial
> interests at the event (Leki and Six Moon Designs, amongst others),  
> the
> collusion between those who have established themselves as  
> structures within
> the hiking community and corporations motivated by profit becomes
> established.
>
> Look at what Ron Moak is doing, President of the ALDHA-West, and  
> oh, just
> coincidentally, the founder and owner of Six Moon Designs, which  
> makes tents
> and other gear for distance hikers. That such a man assumes such a  
> position
> of leadership in a hiking organization while profiting from it is
> despicable.
>
> Remember the row at Dick Cheney's former involvement with  
> Halliburton and
> the company's involvement in the Iraq war? Imagine how much worse  
> it would
> have been had Mr. Cheney been the founder and owner of Halliburton,  
> as Ron
> Moak is with his company.
>
> Beyond these reasons, they are encouraging this trail to become  
> populated by
> individuals whose sole expertise in hiking is that they plunked  
> down money
> to pay for their trip, similar to the "culture" of well-funded  
> "mountaneers"
> that currently infest the slopes of Everest.
>
> As I have stated in the past, people need to provide for their own
> experience insofar as hiking a trail such as the PCT is concerned, and
> spoon-feeding them what they need to know for cash money goes  
> against the
> very nature of being self-reliant enough to hike on a trail.
>
> What men like Ned Tibbits, Greg Hummel, and Ron Moak are doing is  
> obvious;
> it is the whoring out of the PCT for their own financial gain and/or
> other motives they have. What boggles my mind is that individuals  
> such as
> yourself do not see this for what it is, the carving up of the PCT for
> commercial exploitation, and take a stand against it.
>
> Jon
>
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